A Middle Solution for Public Sector Unions

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Kasz216 said:

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Do those groups activly try and make money for the government?  Or are they groups that pay the government so they can make money.

In the UK, most of the things I listed operate as a quasi-nongovernmental organisation and try to make a profit for the government. The contracting stuff doesn't, but it's an example of how mixing public and private motives don't work.

Outside which, in the cereal example, the government owns ONE means of production out of many... and companies certaintly could compete. 

No. The government has unlimited capital and virtually zero risk.

I mean hell, schools are the perfect example.

private schools actually provide a cheaper more effective product on average...

Hell no.

even just "devolved" local schools do better, magnet schools and charter schools.  

People will tell you charter and magnet schools do worse, but they're decepitve when they do, because what they do is average all the charter and magnet schools scores vs a states entire public school record.  Ignoring the fact that charter and magnet schools only open in the worst neighberhoods.   Comparitive to other schools they do far better.

In the US. Where public education is a complete disaster (I spent three years under the American system and it would take that long to list its faults). In the UK, there's no difference between state and managed schools, except that the managed schools take far more money (they took the entire county's allocation of rebuilding capital and spent it on statues, a rifle range and equestrian centre), are involved in fraud, and are completely unaccountable when things go wrong. Private schools are a little better, but their fees are astronomically expensive and their results attributable to like the 1:5 student:staff ratio. Public schools can never match those resources no matter how they are managed.

...unless the funding is uneven. I can't believe your country allows schools to be based on property taxes. It's like you hate the words 'equal opportunity'.

If the government can make money off a volentary product or source that's more likely than not to make money.  I've got no problem with it.  It's getting the most for your tax dollars. 

True communism. Doesn't work.