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allenmaher on 19 November 2012
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This Is what I tried to post...
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ninetailschris said:
I did not personal attack you as I did not insult you I said what you were doing was insult ice and based on horrible reasoning.

Btw what? You're a scholar and scientist..... Come on. This baits the question what did you study on both and what degrees do you have?

Yes,I'm interested in the sources why would ask if I didn't want them? Give me them I will not prejudge the sources as long as there from actual scholar not scientist.

But nice run away to topic not dealing with what I asked but if you want bring up the guy I remember a famous debate he did with William lane Craig "http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=TM1Lt16sqiA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTM1Lt16sqiA" good debate.

but if want someone who is one of the most famous scientist Dr Francis Collins and his book "The Language of God" and I can also name some book by famous physicians who go into great detail on topics.
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Somehow you seem to take umbrage from my comments, which were a statement of opinion. This is why I find debating the topic pointless. As to your suggestion that an "actual scholar" is not a scientist, I think here you may be mistaken. Science is a scholarly proffession, one recieves a PhD in it (a doctorate of philosophy).

I chose not to cite historical, or archealogical sources because it is not my area of specialty. Natural sciences are and the work I cited does an exceptionally good job of examining religious claims in a scholarly evidence based scientific way. It is lucid, fully referenced and an excellent work. Of course any university natural science first year course will quickly expose you to the inherent conflict between a rational evidenced based world view and one predicated on a cultural traditon, even one as old and venerable as christianity. The two viewpoints are quite incompatible. Either the world is very old, was formed in a planetary acretion disk, and we are the product of billions of years of natural chemical, physical and evolutionary processes, or the earth is very young (inset religious timeline) and a supernatural creature did everything because (insert religious reason here). As I mentioned in point 1, the two sides of the argument are not equally supported by the evidence.

I did study philosophy (in my humanities requirements) and recognize ad-hominen attacks when I read them, as would anyone with basic training in logic. I choose not to share my particular credentials with a provocatur using a psuedonym on the internet. I find this a reasonable precaution. I wonder at this point, why I bothered to resoond, I should have listened to my own point "3. Debating god/religion/etc.. is the largest waste of time known to man. " Hoisted on my own petard, it seems.

Have a good day, and try not to take this all so seriously. This is an off topic debate in a games forum, not parliment. I am here killing time while waiting for my WiiU to arrive in the mail from Best Buy. Then it is zombie killing time... something I think there is much more chance of us agreeing on.