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richardhutnik on 18 November 2012
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TheEvilBanana said:
richardhutnik said:
TheEvilBanana said:

Sorry, you're wrong. According to your bible there is ZERO chance of me being forgiven, if you don't believe me read the words of your christ:

Mark 3:22-30 states,

"And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, 'He has Beelzebub,' and, 'By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.' …'Assuredly, I [Jesus] say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation;' because they said, 'He has an unclean spirit'" 

In Matthew 12:31-32, Jesus says to the Pharisees,

"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come"

Besides, don't talk to me about how I'm evil because I've sinned. First of all I don't believe there are sins, only bad karma. And having bad karma does not make you a bad person, because people change. Besides, I have very little bad karma.

I would say that, very likely, the sin of blaspheming against the Holy Spirit would be with knowing exactly what is of God, and attributing it evil willfully and knowing such.  There has to be a degree of certainty and knowing.  Would you say you fully know that which is of God for sure, and say it is of evil?  If you aren't sure, then I am unsure where you could of done this.

I know what is of YHWH and the Judeo/Chirstian religion. I renounce it and look upon it with distain. I believe it is evil.

I don't think you really know what the Christian religion is.  You may know some overlap between the two, but I fin d it suspect you would look at what is there with disdain and consider it evil.  When you say "it is evil" you say it has nothing of value and none of it is good.  But, the core of the Christian religion is summed up in love, and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", and "Love go with your heart, soul and mind and your neighbor as yourself".  There is also the virgin birth and death and resurrection of Jesus and what is in the Creed.  One can say it is confusing, and doesn't make sense, but to look at it with disdain and evil?  What is evil in what I wrote?  And what is evil about this?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=NIV

 

1 Corinthians 13

New International Version (NIV)

13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[b] but do not have love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part,10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

 

And what is evil about this?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+1%3A27&version=NIV

James 1:27

New International Version (NIV)

27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widowsin their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

 

And what is disdainful and evil about this?

 

"Our Father in heaven,hallowed be your name.Your kingdom come,your will be done,on earth as it is in heaven.Give us this day our daily bread,and forgive us our debts,as we also have forgiven our debtors.And lead us not into temptation,but deliver us from evil."



Or this:http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205%20&version=NIV

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
    for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
    for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
    for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
    for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
    for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
    for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.