What can be done with Isreal? Realistically!

[Kasz216]

scottie said:

Kasz216 said:

scottie said:

Kasz216 said:

scottie said:

Kasz216 said:

scottie said:

 

 

I got what your saying.

And i'm saying.  It isn't going to happen.

Nations don't fight pointless wars in which they can take casualities for no benefit.  Hell, they don't even fight pointless was in which they can take no casualties for no benefit as seen by previous ethnic cleansings being allowed.

A UN Led invasion would be able to beat Israel sure.  However  A UN led invasion would take more casualties then any UN led intervention anywhere.   Way more action and casulties then anyone has been willing to take for a completely innocent group, let alone the Palestinians.

A  UN invasion wihtout America and Germany...  It could succeed eventually, but they'd take a LOT of casualties so support would need to be sustained.  You really underestimate the teeth of the Israeli army, and that's assuming they don't say "screw it" and use nuclear weapons.

Without the US at least providing air support it would be EXTREMELY trorublesome as the Israeli armed air forces would be as advanced as the best options the UN forces could provide, they'd be more expeirenced, and they'd have. 

The UN isn't going to do it.  The Arab states wouldn't even go to war with Israel at this point.  The last time it was soley self interest.  At this point there isn't any real advantage to military conflict.

 

Well, the topic is "what can be realistically done" and these are the options:

A) Options which don't "do anything about Israel"

1) The best thing to do is leave them to work it out. This will never reach an end, the circle of violence will continue.

2) Nuke/napalm/salt the entire region until it is uninhabitable, teaching both sides not to be such idiots. No-one would dare do it, would simply force the problem elsewhere.

3) An arab alliance military solution. Israel will defeat it.

 

B) Options which do something about Israel.

1) International alliance against Israel, led by the USA, with all major nations bar Germany involved. So unlikely as to not really be worth considering.

2) International alliance against Israel, led by the UN, with all major nations bar USA and Germany involved. Fairly unlikely to happen as it would be moderately challenging, and little to gain for the other countries.

3) Pure diplomatic solution. A nice first attempt, but will almost certainly fail, leading to either B1 or B2.

 

Most likely option to happen is of course A1. Most likely to happen and succeed, to "do something about Israel" = B2.

My point is... the B options aren't realisitic... I mean, even just a plain out boycott... I mean... I know people who have tried to Boycott Israel.  They essentiall gave up because it was nearly impossible.

I mean, chances are the computer you are using this very moment had parts made in Israel.  A boycott of Israel would cause a massive computer chip shortage.

The answer of what can be done realistically with Israel is... Nothing. 

There was a better chance that Bush's iraq middle east policy was going to lead to perfect democratic states. (which was obviously ridiculious).

 

 

The only REAL solution would be to convince Palestine to take the best deal it can get immediatly so the borders are set before Israel consdiers more land undeniably Israel. Even abandon Jersualem. Rise it's people out of poverty and negative circumstances, grow their economy and become important.

While pressing UN legislation that the deal they signed was unfair and coerced, and wait long term for Israel to slip in global power/importance.

 

That is by far their best option, but one they refuse to take out of pride and religion.