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Kasz216 said:
RoryGamesFree said:

I have seen a UN report that states that the IDF used human shields ("During the period under examination, the Israeli occupying forces also rounded-up thousands of Palestinian males and approximately 7,000 were detained by Israel in a mass arbitrary detention. Many of the detainees were subjected to ill-treatment and, according to reports, some were tortured. The occupying forces raided and searched innumerable Palestinian homes, humiliated and harassed residents and in many instances looted homes. An even more condemnable practice was the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields while conducting those searches and while carrying out military advances in Palestinian cities, villages and refugee camps."

"Then comes the Israeli military assault on the Jenin refugee camp, one square kilometer in which 13,000 Palestine refugees, who were uprooted from the homes and properties in 1948, had been living. The assault began on 3 April and continued for 10 days. The Israeli occupying forces used helicopter gunships to fire TOW missiles against such a densely populated area. The occupying forces also used anti-aircraft guns, able to fire 3,000 rounds a minute. They deployed scores of tanks and armored vehicles equipped with machine guns and used snipers. The occupying forces also used bulldozers to raze homes and to burrow wide lanes throughout the camp, knocking down whole blocks of homes, in many instances while the inhabitants were still inside. The occupying forces intensively used civilians in the camp as human shields while conducting this military assault."), I have seen 0 evidence that Hamas do, and certainly not in this conflict. they are the democratically elected government...in elections the EU and other observes said were fine and reflected public will...the kids may well be their own because they don't expect other nations to get away with bombing a democraticaly elected government.

in response to being illegally occupied, treated like dirt and being refused access to basic amenietes...if anything it's restrained, Israel had done more than enough to provoke a war by any other nations standards with Gaza decades ago, those rockets also kill people rarely and indeed more Israeli's die of peanut allergy in an average year than the rocket attacks.

 

and AFTER the illegal occupation and stuff I mentioned, oh and after the IDF shot a child and assasinated government officials...

largely because they didn't, they are a crude militia of a military force at best in an occupied and beseiged piece of land that they can't even sustain themselves with thanks to Israel...

If you've seen no proof of it.  All that proves is that you aren't looking.  Since they outright say they intentionally use human shields during Israeli bombings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs

 

As for the rest of your statement... these are terrible incidents... and why are they just incidents?   Because it's RARE when Israel has slip ups like this.

Compaired to Hamas where such things are the standard.

You won't find an army anywhere in the world engaged in a conflcit that has a perfect humans rights record because often times the military under the stress fucks up.

 

Also, you've got your cause and effect wrong.

Everything Israel has done has been BECAUSE of the rocket launches.  They came first.

If you want proof....

Look at the West Bank.

Compare the West Bank to Gaza.  

Ask "Why are these two areas so different. If what Israel wants is just to tortue Palestinians"

 

This is a bed of Gaza's own making... What israel is doing  is nothing any other country wouldn't be doing under the same circumstances.

 

It's fine to be calm about it over in the UK.  I'm guessing if your uncle got killed by a missle though, or father, or even child... I think you'd want airstrikes to destroy their missle launching capabilties.   Which is what these attacks are.

I don't think, with your family in the crossfire, you'd want to allow them the freedom to procure more and more missles, and to go for a "1 for 1" policy on air strikes, letting constant missle launching sites be built until enough deaths have been "racked up" to allow you to protect your own people by destroying one of the dozens of launchers aiming to kill your people.

Like some ridciulious beurcratic game of calculus with peoples lives.

 

If anyone needs to look in the mirror when it comes to promoting inhumane activities... it's you.


so they copy the tactics of the people who attack them and occcupy their land, who'd have thought people do that...

the IDF are depraved scum mate, face it, your Zionism has blinded you but by all means ignore the facts.

 

yeah cause the West Bank is doing so well as a result right? there's also huge geographical differences that are the primary cause of the differences, cutting off Gaza from the West Bank is also a cause of the radicalisation in Gaza...it's a death camp of Israel's making, the only reason they don't do it in the West Bank is that the geography and controls they have over it are much more of an issue or people there would fight back against the cuntish scum of the earth rats that are the IDF and the illegal occupation of their land.

you again demonstrate you care not for the thousands upon thousands of Palestinains whose lives have been ruined by Israel's actions, occupation and attacks and ignore that Israel always kills far, far more civilians and people in general in every conflict it has, but hey when you are a blind cunt who cares about anyone other than your precious Israeli's right? I would rather no-one died, but clearly you are happy with near genocide but are angered by any defence against that genocide.

burecratic game? like the USA refusing to ever allow the barbarism of Israel's government to be held to account you mean? like their ignorance of the thousands of deaths, kidnappings and people living in poverty in Gaza because of Israel?

no it is YOU, your attitude is sickeningly depraved and you are a shame to humanity with it, your love of every Israeli life but utter dismissal of all the Palestinians who die and your love of the Israeli government and military whilst condemning everyything Hamas does without question...you are not only in the wrong, but you are blind to it, you are no better than people who defended the Nazi's and Hitler.



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