What can be done with Isreal? Realistically!

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MrBubbles said:

mai said:

Griffin said:

You should not bring up the nuclear bombings of Japan, since they saved more lives then they killed.

Thank you, I'm perfectly aware of what official historiography thinks about it, and consider this a typical "common place" that everybody think it is, while it's not (e.g. Napoleon was short). I beleive if not due to the nuclear deterrence there could have been other nuclear bombings, which would be postfactum and hypocritically explained somehow as a good thing. Anyway the subject was discussed already here, on VGC.

@MrBubbles, who would have thought? Well, that was my assumption. Probably, Canadian, as if it makes a lot of difference for me :D

oh?  you find those countries very similar?

 

i take issue with people and the comparisons to the nazis for such matters because it demonstrates a gross ignorance of the events that took place then and are taking place now.  i dont think those sorts of things are events that should be forgotten and ignored.   they should be seen and they should be known.   people should feel something when they see those photos.   they should recognize it is not the same and they should work against thoughts that lead to people being treated like that.   

even if the events are also quite different than the massacre you brought up (which is a massacre for any of you other people reading who were misusing that word) it is the same thoughts that caused it.  

gaza isnt a concentration camp, the israelis are not committing massacres, and no genocide taking place.  there is no holocaust of palestinians.   how can you even have a reasonable discussion with someone making those points ?   they lack very basic understanding.    that is why i posted the photos. 

How would you feel about an apartheid comparison? I feel it is more apt to the Israel/Palestine situation.