Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Except.... it isn't. People find excuses all the time to allow or disallow these things. The "difference" you are talking about is just another excuse that holds no real meaning. They would pull their support the moment it became apparent it might pass.
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Israel does not have any internationally recognised sovereignity over Palestine. As such the formation of Palestine is not seperatism.
The thing that concerns countries like Russia and Spain is whether self-determination can override sovereignity - if said sovereignity does not exist (as is the case with Israel/Palestine) then it does not cause concern for those countries.
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International soverinty is irrelvent, considering the majority of these cases happened before such a term existed.
Look up the Nagorno-Karabakh situation for basically the exact same thing but without all the high profile involvement.
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I'm just leaving posts all over the place here... <_>
But Nagorno-Karabakh is different because the Armenia-Azerbaijan border was intended to be like the North Carolina/Tennessee border; they're all Soviets.
Just one of those things, like Abkhazia and South Ossetia, that nobody really thought through before the Soviet Union collapsed.
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I'm not seeing what there actually makes it different. Other then the claim that Amrenian's and Azerbaijan is the same simply because they both used to be in the Soviet Union.
Which is ridiculious.
They're actually more ethnically diverse then Jews and Muslims and also dividided by religion.
It's as similar to any situation as your likely to get in the world.
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I mean in the sense that the borders were drawn back when nobody cared (or, no-one was expected to care); what does it matter if you're in this part of the Soviet Union or that part of the Soviet Union?
That said, a fair bit of border-drawing should have been done as part of the negotiations that led to the dissolution of the union, to fix problems of Russian minorities in Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine, and Moldova, the Abkhazia/Ossetia question, Russians in Kazakhstan, and Nagorno-Karabakh.
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They did care though... The SSR's in the USSR were pretty competitive and there were many skirmishes, complaints and uprisings when they were both part of the USSR.
They fought wars while they were both part of the Soviet Union.
It's an area with no real status.
