What can be done with Isreal? Realistically!

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Mr Khan said:

ArnoldRimmer said:

Until the USA steps back from their blindfolded support for Israel, nothing will ever happen. The good news is that this just a matter of time.

What I find absolutely hilarious by the way is when people claim that the palestinians shouldn't go to the UN to ask for statehood recognition, because the only acceptable way for the palestinians to get their own state is through direct negotiations with Israel. Whoever says something like that is either a complete idiot parroting some crap he's heard on TV or simply trying to fool complete idiots.

Israel has no intention whatsoever to give the palestinians their own state. Why should they?!? Apart from gaining popularity, there's just no advantage for them.

Israel's ruling party even explicitly states in their party program the aim of preventing the establishment of a palestinian state.

So telling  the palestinians that direct negotiations with Israel is the only acceptable option is as ridiculous as telling the jews in warshaw ghetto that direct negotiations with the Nazis is the only acceptable option to improve their situation.

Btw, I wonder if the current tensions between the palestinians and Israel might indeed have to do with the palestinians going to the UN. It seems that Netanyahu and Co. are seriously afraid of them doing so.

They're afraid Because they know that in any straight, up-down General Assembly vote, Palestine will win 100% of the time, because as far as the majority of countries (being ex-colonial or otherwise having a history of western exploitation) are concerned, Palestine is just trying to get their fair share. It's only America in the Security Council that will stop them from gaining full international recognition (Britain and France could be convinced).

Kind of makes you think, after all that bitching we do about Chinese and Russian obstructionism in the Security Council.

Eh, it's less "Fair Share" more "The US supports Israel."

If the US didn't support Israel... like say this exact situation happened elsewhere, practically no country would support Palestine because they would see it as a legitamization of "seperatists".  It's the same reason countries like... Spain don't recognize Kosovo.

Most of the world supports Palsestine because the United States supports Israel, there is in general a large alliance of countries that vote the opposite of the US  on every measure from Israel to global kitten appreciation day.

 

Now Europe.  Europe's backing off of Israel is actually a pretty interesting long term political development that began with a strange marriage of the Europeon Leftwing(more radical aprts) and Muslim Immigrants.  The Leftwing pretty much ignoring some of the more problematic issues from the immigration such as woman's rights for the voter support.