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S.T.A.G.E. said:
thranx said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
thranx said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
thranx said:
I think patcher countered hime very well. They both brought up good points, but what Patcher said is true and that is why xbox live is still such a success with some of the flaws that hardcore gamers do not like. I personally don mind the ads as they dont stop me from doing anything(they stop and play videos i can't stop or anything like that they are just there) and sometimes (not very often) i see something usefull in them. I have never watch bonus round before, a good show. PNever really seen patcher speak either for all the flak he gets I think he does well. Yea is more business than gamer, but he brings up valid points.


I agreed with pachter on the ads part, but again Microsoft doesn't need them because as Pachter said they broke even on Xbox Live after 2-3 million users. Xbox Live is a constant surplus for Microsoft and still they call it premium. Those ads are just excess money in their pockets. All I can say is rape.


Most ads i see are for games and movies and music. But i'm not really on the dash that much. Its not rape for a company to make a profit. Its normal. If they dont make the profit on xbox live they will try to make it eleware. I do not see profit as a bad thing as long as i am getting what i want and pay for, which i do from live.


I dont see the difference between live and PSN to tell you the truth, but whatever you see in it, enjoy it my friend.

There isn't much difference now. The main thing i like is the unified match making system. But sony would not have improved psn if ms didn't force them by having a better online experience earlier on in this gen, and ms wouldn't have had the better online experience without the monthly subs.


Microsoft broke even on Xbox Live in the first year it came out, give or take according to pachter as he cited 2-3 million Xbox Live owners was the even count. It wouldn't matter to me if Sony kept PSN free with ads to subsidize the status quo. What is Microsoft doing with all this profit they've been making off of XBox Live for the past six (nearly seven) years after launch? You're completely right, Microsoft taught Sony how to make online properly. Sony is learning and at this point next gen is going to be extremely close in online. I believe the growth of PSN Plus will play a part in future success next gen as it grows into a larger entity, much like Xbox Live did last gen.


it doesn't matter what they do with their profit. Like i said i dont hate companies for making a profit nor do i feel entitled to their profits(this is the exact behavior pathcer was talking about in the video). They offered a service at a a price i agree with and that i like that is all. if i didn't want to pay for it i could always go to sony or nintendo or pc(i do play most on pc already). But xbox live is a service that suits what i like and is a good price for me. I will most likely enjoy it on the next console too.