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I think patcher countered hime very well. They both brought up good points, but what Patcher said is true and that is why xbox live is still such a success with some of the flaws that hardcore gamers do not like. I personally don mind the ads as they dont stop me from doing anything(they stop and play videos i can't stop or anything like that they are just there) and sometimes (not very often) i see something usefull in them. I have never watch bonus round before, a good show. PNever really seen patcher speak either for all the flak he gets I think he does well. Yea is more business than gamer, but he brings up valid points.

 

Edit: I also do not see how Patcher met his match. Patcher was stating what is true and what will happen, while the other guy is stating what he wishes will happen. Its not that patcher wants this to happen, but it is whats going to happen with xbox live.