Marijuana Prohibition ended in Colorado!

[the2real4mafol]

SamuelRSmith said:

the2real4mafol said:

1. What is actually wrong with state funded education, most people can't afford a private education you know, only the 1% can!

 

2.and what is wrong is with the welfare state?, it's acts like a safety net for those who are unfortunately unemployed or those who live in poverty.

The state creates unemployment and poverty, why should I listen to their ideas of solutions, when they're the ones who create the problem in the first place?

3. As for drugs, legalising them is the only way, government might as well collect taxes on it for other things, instead of wasting money on a phoney war on drugs and arresting people, legalising more popular drugs like pot is a good way of reducing the prison population, while reducing state spending too and the crime rate will drop, since the cartel will have to find other ways as effective as the drug trade to make excessive profits,  it's a win-win situation.

It takes money from one cartel (the Mexican ones), and gives it to another (the state). It's not win-win, it's a sideways movement. You honestly believe the prison population is going to decrease? With all this new weed-money in the state kitty? They're just going to use it to enforce other laws better. The way the system is set up, there's too much money in the prison world for their to ever be a sizeable decrease in the prison population.

4. Finally, do you really believe in a truely liberal economy? I don't as it ownly benefits the CEO's and executives of a company, while the poor are exploited for all it's worth and the environment is destroyed. i'm sorry, but there is not enough trust in these corporations to let them do whatever they want anymore, they need to be tamed. 

I do believe in a 100% capitalist economy. Zero Government. Nada. Corporations have nothing to do with capitalism, and are a product of the state. The environment would be protected just fine in a free society, thanks to property rights.

1. She has a decent point but people should have a choice of private or state education at least, especiallly in the poorer nations. My whole problem with private schools, is the fact that they cost money. Even if it's cheap, money is still a sort of barrier to education. sure, it may be better than state education in some cases, but I think a government should provide a service for the neediest, while the better off have a choice between the two.

2. I disagree, the flaws of the capitalist system create poverty and unemployment. In a time like this, when the market trully fucked up, we have seen poverty and unemployment only rise! For example US poverty rose from 12.5% in 2007 to 15% in 2011, Average wages have fall from $55,000 to $50,000 in the same time,while unemployment was under 5% in 2007 but is now around 8%, in a country like the United States, there is no where the state caused all that!  Explain how the state created these? (the only time government creates unemployment, is when they lay off public sector workers) And how is the market any better?, they create problems themselves. I would like to know what democratic body you would replace the government with, seriously is there any alternative?

3. Of course, it's better the money goes away from dangerous gangbangers to the state who can help people get a job and fix the infrastructure. Of course, the prison population will go down too, since many are arrested for similiar having drugs, legalising them means they won't go to jail at all, costing the state more. While the taxes raised from pot can be used to help set up family run business', which is great for jobs and the economy. As for your last sentence, do you think that how it is in state prisons. If the talking about the USA still, most prisons are actually private now, which is where the money comes in. They profit from incarcerating people!

4. Just like communism, a truly capitalist is not really possible. The wealth of corporations can't help but corrupt the government and make it nearly impossible for smaller businesses to compete (really free isn't it!). But even if there was a truly liberal market, profit would still be the motive here, not anyone else. I don't see why they wouldn't pay even less to workers, if there was an anarchic society. As for the envirionment, i doubt they would care that much about it as long as business is strong, since companies can move to somewhere else anyway