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spleeknuckle said:

Fair enough.  I do remember hearing about the employees at foxconn living and working all on the company compound.  Suicide rate us supposedly high there as well.  I also remember from the interview someone at Apple said it would take them upwards of 9 months just to hire enough engineers in the states due to things (which I'm drawing a blank on right now) whereas they can hire the same amount in China in 30 days.  I have to admit you're right on with that and I was wrong.  Still, I can't help but wonder how much, negligable or significant difference dropping their tax rates to some ungodly figure (say under 10%) factored in with the massive amount of employees now paying a new income tax....would that make it worthwhile to put an Apple factory in the states?

 

That's part of the problem really.  Chinese workers are skilled, cheap, are willing to LIVE ON THE JOB, and can move quickly due to lack of regulation.  How is there any way to compete with that really?  The only answer in my head is cheap ass taxes on companies that set up shop in the states and tax the SHIT out of anything imported from China....level the playing field so to speak.  You'll certainly not get a union member to work for pennies in crap ass working conditions so there's no other way.

You just won't compete on those jobs, Obama was actually frank in one of the debate and said as much. The majority of those jobs that went abroad are not coming back...

There are however others area of the economies where the jobs can be done in the US.

Software is one such area. The US is the number one importer of software developers because not enough software engineers are trained by colleges. ( Most the Indians or asiatics you see with green cards work in software).

On top of this US companies still employs a huge number of software developers abroad, mostly in India but it's starting in China too. And in that case the demand is so huge that the salary difference isn't as big as in manufacturing ( because they have a shortage of developers in India or China too) and despite all the progress that has been made, the quality of the work produced oversea isn't the same as the one produced in the US, not due to skills issue but more telecommuting and team work issues...

And finally software jobs are some of the highest paid jobs so they would boost the economy a lot...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !