Discussing PS4 hardware and manufacturing price

[VGKing]

sales2099 said:

What are you talking about? PSV isn't cheap, but it isn't expensive either. It launched at the same price as the 3DS and the PSP.

So what did Sony do with Vita? They launched it at an affordable price and competitively with the portable market leader, the 3DS. Nintendo knew they couldn't compete so they did that panic $80 price cut. Now Sony can't compete.

With PS4 there is no way Sony will price it at $499(even the premium model). Sony will price the PS4 at a competitive price. They wilil manufacture a $500 system and sell it at $400. The technology in the console is "off-the shelf" so the console itself would be profitable within 2 years. 

PSV is the most expensive dedicated gaming handheld on the market.

If it was "affordable" it would sell. So not buying that reasoning. Nintendo told us that $250 is a no-buy zone with consumers for handhelds. Nintendo charged that because they were greedy, Sony fully planned Vita to be $250.

Off the shelf or not, Sony is aiming the PS4 to be more expensive then Xbox and WiiU. That much I can guarantee. This time, Sony is still gonna loose money, but on a lesser scale then PS3. They basically only half-learned their lesson, which is to stick to the PS2 business model.

Than Wii U? Most definitely. Than Xbox 720? Just pure guesswork at the moment.
I belive Microsoft will want to bundle a Kinect 2.0 with every single Xbox 720. That won' t come cheap to the consumer unless they release a console to compete with the Wii U and not PS4.