veiam on 08 February 2008
| Grey Acumen said: In order for God to be able to be disproved, one would first have to know what god is. By definition god exists above our level of comprehension, hence is impossible to disprove. Anyone who actually makes an argument against God's existence can only do so based off of their own comprehension of what God is "supposed" to be, but all that does is prove that their comprehension of god is mistaken. Why do I know God exists? The very fact that we ask ourselves what the purpose of life is, the very fact that we question existence and how the world works, the very fact that despite everything we have learned, we still do not understand everything, everything is evidence. On top of this, the spontaneous moral standards are what I see as the most undeniable proof. Lying, Murder, Adultery, Stealing are all obstacles to forming a strong society, and yet these are also things that any individual would be able to benefit from if they had no moral standards to begin with. If a lion sees another lion eating something, and he's hungry, then if he's big enough to take the other lion's food, he will. This would likely be the lion that all others would have to defer to, so why would he impose rules that would no longer allow him to do this? The moral rules that are the fiber of society are made to protect the weak from the strong, yet nature dictates that the strong survive and the weak are culled. On top of this, morals are not part of instinct. They are purely learned behaviors. Any kid in the playground will attempt to take a toy from another kid if he has an interest in it, until he has been taught that is wrong to do. So with this in mind, there HAS to have been some point at which man was taught these lessons, and it could not come from a natural force, as those rules are directly opposed to natural selection. |
You say that God is beyond comprehension. Yet every 3rd religious person i meet is an utter idiot and yet he goes around telling me about God. If God is unable to be comprehended, why are you spreading his Word? Who comprehended his words in the first place? You can say Jesus did, but in that case we comprehended what God was saying further comprehending what God is all about. If we can't comprehend God then for all you know he is sitting in some other dimension/time/plane/whatever and eating babies. Who can anyone preach about God when he can't be understood. Or maybe the Muslims are right and their jihad is what God really means. After all the God of Christians, Muslims, and Jews is the same God. The difference is that each religion has a diferent prophet to "comprehend" God. Religion is opium for the masses. - Marx That quote plus Zucas' first reply(couldn't have stated the idea any better myself) are the single best reasons as to why religion, gods, etc. actually exist.
