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SamuelRSmith said:
richardhutnik said:

What the heck is the alternative to not buying health insurance, outside of not having any?  You can toot your horn about "freedom" all you want, but the mandate is there to make sure you pay into the system to keep emergency room services going.  Also, the original idea was not to have a mandate, but to have state by state run markets where you could buy what you wanted, get subsidies when you came short, and have the government step in with a state run insurance program, that people could buy, if they didn't like the others, and no mandate. But, guess what happened?  Well, the insurance companies stepped in, along with GOP opposition and shot that down.  So, Romneycare came in, and had mandates plus subsidies and you had to buy from the market of insurance plans.

The reality is, there are NO other alternatives to insurance at this point.


You must have misread my post.

...use an alternative. Oh wait, you can't because you're much beloved Government have made it physically impossible for you to use any other kind of health model, and made it a taxable event to not own health insurance....

There's no alternative to health insurance any more because Government made it impossible for any alternative. Not talking about Obamacare here, but all Government "regulations" and "interventions" in healthcare since the dawn of time.

"Herp derp it was Party A or Person X that did Y". Whether it was Republicans or Democrats who wrote the laws, I couldn't give less of a shit.

You want to know what the alternative most nations in the west that are first-world?  It is a nationalized healthcare system.  There is no insurance people pay for.

And pardon a bit of irony here.  You aren't from the United States, so why are you complaining?  You don't even have a clue what it is like to live under this system.