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the_dengle said:
Scisca said:

MS has no chance in Japan, cause the Japanese buy Japanese products and games. It's the same in the US - Americans buy X-box, because it's American. In Europe we just choose the best offer, that's why the PS3 dominates the 360. If the next gen X-box is better than Wii U/PS4 it will easily win in Europe.

Europe is the only market in which the best one actually wins.

It is not anywhere near the same in the US. The Wii and PS3 combined for over 60 million hardware sales in the US. 360 has sold about half that. In Japan, 360 has sold less than 2 million units. It has a 7% marketshare, compared to Sony's 22/23% marketshare in the US, and the Wii's 40%. Americans are willing to buy Japanese products. Actually, more of them are willing to buy Japanese products than American products.

Japan is still an enormous market, and as long as Nintendo and Sony are splitting over 90% of the console market there and leaving the scraps for Microsoft, I cannot see a situation in which Microsoft becomes the market leader. I won't say 'never,' but it would have to win by an outrageously large margin in both America and Europe.

It's an interesting perspective to take that Europe picks the best console. I agree that the Wii was the best console this gen, but I'm not sure that's the most reliable method for determining that.

I take a different approach to these calculations. I wouldn't divide the market like this: Wii+PS3 vs. X360. I think it's PS3 vs. X360 and the Wii forms a totally different market, that there was no American competition on until the Kinect. The Wii has never been an alternative to the PS360. But I have to agree, you guys are less anti-Japanese, then they are anti-US when it comes to consoles.

When it comes to Europe, we just calculate the offers without being biased and go for what's more attractive. When it comes to my country for example, Sony is the only company that treated the market and gamers seriously and from the start has given us by far the best product. Second was MS, the worst offer came from Nintendo and it is totally reflected in the sales, where it's PS3>X360>>>>Wii and PSP>>>>>>>>DS.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.