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drkohler said:
BlueFalcon said:

You realize even the latest Vishera FX8350 system (without the GPU) uses as much power as the entire PS3/360?

You cannot cross-fire HD7770 with A10 APU

Why would I want to see micro-stuttering XFire graphics? A separate HD7770 has about 6 times the performance of PS3/360 GPU. Good enough for 1080P/60Hz. Use the APU's GPU for other stuff (like Move, for example...)

Why would I use Vishivashi stuff?  For example, the stock A10-5700 has a TDP of 65W http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FM2_APU_Review/


I am just responding to your post. You said they could CF the APU with HD7770, but it isn't possible architecturally wise. Also, neither Sony nor MS would ever use a desktop-based GPU in a console. It will be a mobile version. For example, HD7850M uses about 32W of power, while HD7950M uses about 50W (that's basically a slightly downclocked HD7870). 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7950M.72676.0.html

You also said MS's system could use FX8xxx CPU but as others have pointed out already, such a design decision would result in a very power hungry console without significant reducation in CPU clocks. Reducing clocks on FX8xxx defeats the purpose entirely as most games don't scale beyond 4 threads; and you'd end up with a very weak per core CPU if you downclock the FX8xxx to 3.0ghz or lower.

The only thing stopping MS or Sony from dropping ~ HD7870 (HD7950M) part into their next console is cost, not power consumption. A10-5700 + HD7950M would be a much fit for a next generation console for well-rounded graphics than FX8xxx + HD7770, but it sounds like Sony is now run by accountants not gamers. I at least hope they do include some kind of a dedicated GPU or the console is in trouble if the A10 APU is all that it has.