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superchunk on 01 November 2012
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drkohler said:
superchunk said:
ethomaz said:

superchunk said:

I think he's just saying the APU has a GPU integrated within itself and its ~7660 model.

The APU is a 7660 like the graphs shows but I think the PS4 needs another GPU or a better APU.

"A10-5800K has a Northern Island HD 7660D GPU which is able to run COD Modern Warfare 3 at 30-45FPS (no AA/AF, min. details) at full HD without 3D" 

I think that config is weak for the next-gen... I expect at least to run that game with the same config in 3D.

You are not considering that the chip will not be off the shelf. It will be customized as will the games. A game console gets far better results on the same set of resources than a PC.

I mean that game runs as good as that description now on current PS360 which has a far lower GPU than the 7660HD.

The XBox GPU has 240 (48*5) processing units, the A10 has 384 (96*4) units. That is not far lower and nowhere enough for 1080p/60Hz/3D.

Unfortunately the A10 is not GCN technology. If you add another GPU (and there is no way a lonely A10 can do 1080P/60Hz/3D, even without the PC driver brake), you are forced to add an older non-GCN GPU if you want seamless XFire operation. On the other hand, you could use the APU GPU for other stuff and add a GCN GPU (like I mentioned before the 7770 fits perfectly). Either way I'd say the second GPU is a dead giveaway if they really go the APU path (bad decision, Sony, really bad - but they can't go back to the drawing board at this late stage). If they want to beat the WiiU specs, the second GPU better be something big. Even then, the XBoxNext CPU rumour is beating the crap out of this PS4 rumour.

From what I was just reading... all of the 7xxxx GPUs are GCN tech,including the 7660D in the APU.

Well, I updated the OP and 2nd post. As soon as more info on the 2013 Steamroller APU is out, I'll add that in.

I don't see either company going for 2nd GPU with an APU due to simple logistics of heat/wattage/cost.