| chocoloco said: I am not attempting to answer why his support has dropped in traditionally blue states here. This would clearly be partly due to to dissatisfaction My point really was to point out that A there is a substantial change in how the West has voted and it does parallel the a shift in the population. I was also pointing out that the Hispanic vote might be very different than polls due to things like certain demographics not reporting in polls. For example, Colorado was showing slightly ahead for Obama in 2008 until the final vote which ended in a substantially large victory for Obama. The other demographic that seems to be suffering lose in the population is from the younger voters aged 18-28. The enthusiasm for Obama that was present in 2008 is clearly not as large as it was in 2008. Though Obama has suffered in all demographics overall which explains the shift in many states. Yes, I agree that the older Hispanic voter is conservative in many ways regarding traditional house hold values partly because they tend to be Catholic. I am some what aware of this due to my grandmothers family that gives me a partial understanding of the traditions. Republican does seem like a dirty word to many though with good reason, and judging by many conservative posters the word Democrat is clearly a dirty word to them. Hence, we have heavy polarization and a very sensitive subject. |
Ah, i see what your saying... however the one thing I'd caution you about that may be clouding it is the East coast West coast effect.
Essentially, if one side is winning lopsidedly on the east coast... like Obama in 2008. The losing party tends to not show up on the west coast. While the winning party gets energized and goes out to vote despite victory being all but locked up to be part of the victory.
Polls generally do try and model their surveys based on race and such afterall. It's not like they just count every person who answers the phone as one vote.
"Republican" as a dirty word though I mean in a more general sense. Sure republicans don't like democrats, democrat's don't like republicans...
however even if you were a hispanic conservative who votes mostly conservative I don't think you would want to be labeled a republican, is what i mean.
It's like if your ever having a political conversation with a bunch of friends and your all seemingly agreeing.
Chances are, the guy who isn't talking and just nodding his head probably disagrees... and just doesn't want to have that conversation.
