Slimebeast said:
disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
But when developers realize that customers aren't interested in the Windows ecosystem they will go back to where they came from lol.
No one will care that his or her Windows 8 desktop PC can talk to a Windows Phone or Windows Tablet and they will keep buying their Androids, iPhones and iPads.
Remember E3 and SmartGlass? Was anyone excited? No. And yet we're talking about a tech savy audience.
Everyone sees how MS desperatly is trying to use this unified ecosystem argument as a selling point but it just doesn't work. Because it's Microsoft. But when Apple and Google do it - and they will in the future - it will probably work.
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You're no longer using valid arguments here, just personal opinions on Microsoft so I can't really argue back. I disagree, and that's that...
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Dude it's not personal opinions.
I have no bias against Microsoft. I love Microsoft.
But the writing is on the wall. Can't you see it?
I'll give you valid arguments:
Nokia too went on and on about this ecosystem in the last few years. Look where they are now. All but forgotten and soon dead. So an investment in ecosystems doesn't guarantee success, far from it.
I gave you a great example of consumer reaction (you yourself admitted the consumer is a part of the chain - devs will be there only if consumers are attracted), SmartGlass and the frosty reception it got at E3.
Reviews of Surface RT - mediocre.
Launch of Surface RT - a staged release only at select stores.
Analysts about the future of Windows tablets - gloomy. (only 8% marketshare in 2015 according to this report http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Microsoft-Surface-Windows-8-Tablet,18227.html )
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Nokia needed to change as a company. They were never going to be the massive phone seller they were 10 years ago.
Did you even look at Nokias financials last quarter? Their phone business actually made money on non-IFRS basis. Look up what that means you you will see that they will be more than fine.
Reviews on Wii - mediocre. Sold like gangbusters
Reviews on Britney Spears's albums - mediocre to bad, sells like crazy.
But more importantly...
Reviews on Windows 8 - good to Great
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Nokia made a small profit on a non-IFRS basis thanks to profitability of its network business, not from phone sales. And those one-time charges that turn profits into losses will be repeated as the company is forced to do more and more layoffs. Nokia is shrinking, and sales are declining fast from all of its portfolios. Nokia is finished in the smartphone business.
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This site needs a "quote for later" feature. I would love to quote you on 4-5 things you said in this thread and bring it up a year from now... :)
