S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
No Microsoft didnt expand anything, Nintendo did that and Microsoft rode on its wave (Remember when Nintendo went casual and Sony and Microsoft expressed pessimism earlier and then Microsoft jumped on the bandwagon? Sony was always on it but their marketing sucked then and it still sucks now). Sony had expanded the Playstation product to casuals two gens before the both of them increasing game use and upgrading the multimedia value. The PS2 and PS1 have still on the one and two spot for highest selling consoles of all time. Literally the only two products that had something for everyone. I don't want to bring games back to the old days, but I also do not want proper games to take a back seat because a company doesn't give two shits about them. Microsoft is investing in games because they have to, but everyone knows they came to the industry because they want to own the living room (and saw Sony gobbling up multimedia marketshare, which is why they went after Apple as well and failed), not just for gaming, but for everything. Sony wants multimedia, but they do NOT want it to trump its truer purpose.
Microsoft has created many studios, but either they haven't come up with much, are working on Halo and Forza or are focusing on next gen. Sonys teams have been focused on games this gen and beyond. Lets keep this concrete on facts, thats how it IS if you've been paying attention. How many games did Microsoft put out last year that wasnt low budget and for the core? How about this year? How about next year? Exactly, there is no argument about that. Microsoft even admitted that making games is risky and made excuses for low game production when journalists pressed them as to why their production level is so low.
Kinect is a mass market product, but unless they follow Sony and come up with a peripheral device for it (Which I believe they will), it wont push anything pertaining to gaming like the PROMISED AND CAMPAIGNED FOR. Their selling point to be taken seriously was to make real games for the Kinect, unless they go on Sonys path and show Sony how to properly market, this is not happening.
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But Nintendo grabbed casuals at the expense of core. MS retained the core and successfully expanded into casuals. Big difference. The underline is very interesting. MS and Sony both invest in gaming, but you think Sony does it with love and MS feels obligated. Drop your misguided sense of Sony as a humanitarian, its getting old.
PS3 Game Sales 2012 (3 week old data). All games have at least a 70 on metacritic.
MLB 12: 0.77
J&D Collection: 0.25
R&C Collection: 0.05
Twisted Metal: 0.54
Starhawk: 0.17
Sorcery: 0.11
Tales of graces: 0.29 (2012 NA/Euro)
House of The Dead 4: 0.05
Tokyo Jungle: 0.22
Halo 4 should be able to outdo that stuff within a few days or less. This data nullifies any point your trying to make in your second paragraph. There is no point spending time and money making games that are sent out to die. MS taking the XBLA approach for high quality at low risk and few but BIG exclusives is a good thing given their current lack of developers. Next gen will have more retail so its win win.
Anybody who believed MS PR about kinect being for the core need professional help and are extremely gullible. That is PR. Kinect was designed to push 360 as a casual games machine and media hub. It succeeded on both accounts. Simple as that.
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This data nullifies nothing. It just means the games didn't sell well and had horrible marketing, now, does it mean they werent popular? Yes (and many things factor into that). Were the games bad? Thats up to the person who played it.It's a mixed bag, but I haven't stayed from my point that Microsofts prime focus in on a few titles that they can heavily market and concentrate energy in extracting as much sales as possible. Again, Sony just makes games. You're not proving me wrong in any sense, you're just boasting about things I already know. Microsoft has superior marketing, plain and simple. This is a marketing issue. Sony even admitted that they are releasing too many games and not screening as many as they could so they could market adequately for them. They said they will be cutting back on development a bit and focusing on the marketing, but I highly doubt they will stoop to internally making as little as Microsoft does.
I'll say it again, the KINECT FOR THE CORE campaign was a failure. They might be able to pick it up next gen. The Kinects scrolling features are great, people have probably been doing that outside of the gaming industry. Microsoft has trying to get gamers like US to take the Kinect seriously, and they have failed with every attempt. I have never denied that the Kinect was a commercial success, its a marketing success and brought in tons of money but on in terms of concrete value, it's nothing but a Dance Central screen scroller.
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