Jay520 said:
DélioPT said:
God`s punishment is also temporary... when you are alive. And not only purifies sins but also shows that what you have done something wrong. In life, you have every chance to change. Every chance to repent and suffer the consequences in this life. And there is nothing that God won`t forgive. Nothing at all.
God didn`t design people to sin or be saints. He made us in His image: to be good - isn`t that what is best about us? But He also gaves the ability to choose something over Him. How would you feel if you had to risk losing someone for the sake of letting that someone find their own path and hopefully not only love you back but to save themselves?
God is not incapable of forgiving. Punishment is Justice. God doesn`t stop loving you, you were the one who decided you didn`t want Him. And God, respecting that, gives exactly what you wanted. If Jesus died for every single one of us, you can be sure that everyone of us is loved by Him. All the things He showed us to be good or bad, all the warnings, Jesus, all the apparitions and miracles, aren`t hollow, they are a sign of His love. If you really want to know if God is read the Bible carefully and listen to what He said, when He said it. If you want proof that He is still around, check for marian apparitions, as not all apparitions are reflections on walls or windows.
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1. Hell is eternal. At least many interpretations of it are.
2. Darev said humans are incapable of not sinning beause of their nature.
3. God cannot forgive a person for not accepting him.
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Yes, hell is eternal. But, both hell, heaven and purgatory come only after this life; only after all that happened here in this life.
I didn`t read what Darev said, but let me try this: see sin by sin instead of seeing all of them at once. By our nature, we can not sin in every single one of them. That`s how we are made... we just ended up failing because we chose the wrong path somewhere, once, twice, etc.. We aren`t born sinners, we are born with something good that we just dismissed at some point in life.
It`s not a question of forgiveness. As i said it`s a question of Justice.
there`s a verse on the Bible that says that there is more joy in heaven for one sinner who found it`s path than 99 good people who went to heaven - or something like that. That shows that there is love for those who sin. Jesus even said He came for those who needed Him.
God will always give people what they chose, even if it`s not what He wants.