You Don't Necessarily Owe God Anything

[DaRev]

DaRev said:

Jay520 said:

DaRev said:

I understand your point, which is a good one, but I still disagree. I'll have to think about this a bit more and READ MY BIBLE, cause it has all the answers

How can you disagree if you can't answer why? Do you not understand your own beliefs?

lol, I understand my beliefs. The difference between me and you it seems is that I consult my sources and not just talk off the top of my head just for argument sake. But I can give you dishonest answers that are based on nothing but what's in my ass if you like

Anyways, here is my answer. I disagree because whether you chose right or wrong doesn’t equate to an imperfect design to love. Adam chose wrong because he was influenced to disobey God, not because he was designed imperfectly.

Moreover, I think there is a distinction between (1) God designing a perfect human being (so far as a human beings are concerned), and (2) a human that is incapable of sin and choosing not to love God. God did not design humans with the inability to not love him.

With regard the former, perfection is achieved by God’s initial design and his omnipotence. With regards the latter, one can only achieve perfection with God’s help.