IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DaRev said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DaRev said:
Yeah, more religious discussions!
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I never really understood how the mistakes made by two human beings supposedly could mess with the fate of all future humans. I mean, what if only one of them would have decided to eat fruit from the tree? Let's say that Adam never accepted Eve's fruit, would that mean only all future women were banned from the Garden of Eden? It just doesn't make any sense.
Bottom line being that it would make more sense to let us all begin our lives in the Garden of Eden and choose whether we wanted to eat from the apple or not. No one should be punished for action committed by somebody else.
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The mistakes of Adam and Eve, I believe, are a representation of all of us. Meaning that if either of us were the first humans on earth, we also would disobey God EVENTUALLY. So you and I or anyone else are no different than Adam or Eve. If you were put into the garden, you also would sin EVENTUALLY and we all would be in the same mess – or do you think you’re PERFECT and would NEVER break ANY of God’s rules?
Also, Christian philosophy I think teaches that the contract was with Adam, not Eve, so it was Adam’s sin, not necessarily Eve’s, that cause the whole world into Sin. But that is another whole barrel of fish that we don’t want to get into here, some real deep stuff.
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But then a new problem arises: Why put anyone in the Garden of Eden if God knew that all humans would end up being kicked out anyway? Why punish humans for being human? If all humans are sinners by nature, I would find it rather cruel to punish us simply for being human. I mean, what if I would breed birds, give them free will and then punished them more intensively the more they chose to fly even after I have told them not to? Wouldn't that be rather cruel?
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Good questions, and I’m afraid that my answering them might TRIVIALIZE just how significant the correct answers to such questions are. Ultimately, my answer to you would be that you seek the answers though a study of the bible.
In any event I would say that that God punished man because he said that he would. So yes we are human, but we did know God’s rule and we chose to break it knowing the consequences. But again, we shouldn’t look at life as if we’re victims, but we should look at life as if we are Children and God is our father. Because as children even thought we did sin, God still loved and provided for Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:21-24).
Yes all humans are sinners by nature, but God still love us and provides a way through his son Jesus that we also would be Children by nature and not sinners (Romans 6). Again, it’s a matter of perspective. People see themselves as sinners so they act and behave that way. However, if you see yourself as a child that is loved by God then you would act differently. For example, in the bible there is much more evidence of God loving/helping man than there are instances of him punishing man – but we tend to only focus on the bad stuff.
