You Don't Necessarily Owe God Anything

[Immortal]

IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Immortal said:

But they do have something valuable to appreciate; life in itself. It's not too much to ask from someone if they have the most wonderful thing there is.

And you realize that you can't use "it" to refer to a human being in the English language, :P? "He or she" or "they" would work better. Unless you're trying to objectify them. Since we're trying to get into the heads of slavemasters, that seems fine.

Well, I guess we simply disagree about life being objectively beautiful.

You can't? A human is not an "it" in your language? I thought that was universal...

Yep. That's basically what I was trying to get to. I think that's your main disagreement with this logic.

And, now that you point it out, it is indeed weird that English doesn't allow us to use "it" for a person. I just realized that this is one of the mistakes I end up making frequently in French, in that I end up using the wrong preposition for a person in order to avoid calling him or her it. Anyway, I guess a discussion on linguistics is a bit off-topic here.

@Jay520 Remember that one of the premises of this argument is that life is objectively wonderful. That's what I've been saying all this time. If you disagree with that, there's nothing more to be discussed, really. Also, I disagree with you on the "I didn't want this gift so I shouldn't have to appreciate it" idea as well.

For example, I'm sure you know that most people don't always enjoy school. Lots of us don't actually wanna be here. If you'll notice, though, we're always told to appreciate it nevertheless because there'll always be some kid in a developing country whom you can compare yourself to who doesn't have this opportunity. Even if I hate school, it is considered objectively good for me and I should be thankful for it. Or at least that's what's generally agreed. The same thing goes for life.

So even if it resembles the mafia, this logic stands.