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Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
happydolphin said:
Proclus said:
Fucking idiot.

Pardon my French.

I still don't get what is so idiotic about it. The person said the obvious: the baby was born, and that is a miracle of life.

Question, what if you were that baby? Yes, you would want to be born regardless, because that's what fighters do, they strive to survive and live life to the fullest.

The person even clearly said they thought rape was wrong. Anyways.

If i have no consciousness, i can't think.

While i believe abortion is not a decision to be made lightly, unborn babies have no "life" in the sense of human, sacred and inviolable life. Theirs is on the level of animal life, which is also not meant to be disposed of lightly, but lacks that core aspect of "self" that grants inherent human rights.

So then... do you support post birth "abortions".

I mean... nothing changes for it to reach human level emotions for quite a while after birth.

People put dogs to sleep they don't want to care for anymore all the time.

 

Also.

http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/03/01/medethics-2011-100411.full

I guess it depends on the definition of sentience. You know, i'll have to think about that.


Yeah, that's what i hate about the abortion debate.   tons of different and intersting philosophical and moral issues are out there, yet none of that gets thought about because everybody is worried about argueing something that will never be solved because the debators don't even have a single unified premise.

 

For the record.  I'm cutting Pork out of my diet on that line of thinking... because pigs actually pass sentience tests that human infants fail until they are two.

Logically if you don't believe that possibilty for sentience is a good reason to not have abortion... essentially eating a pig is worse then eating a child under the age of two.

I'm not sure i believe that.  Doesn't feel right from a gut feeling but i've got no actual logical arguement against it.