killerzX said:
bluesinG said:
killerzX said:
that is an astonishingly arbitrary definition you have of what a human is.
i know what a fetus is, just as i know what a adult is. but what you are esentially saying is, im not a human, im an adult.
fetus= unborn baby human
baby= new born human
teen= young human
etc.
all human, all deserve to live.
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Have you watched a woman give birth, and then watched the baby take their first breath and open their eyes for the first time? I have, and I can tell you that those moments represent a *huge* change.
Having witnessed that change, I believe that an unborn fetus is still a person-in-the-making, and that a born child is a person. I can understand how others might believe that personhood is achieved earlier, but I cannot understand how someone can believe that birth is just an "arbitrary" moment. It is a truly miraculous moment, and it's a huge change. Please tell me you understand that.
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yes birth is miraculous, so is the child.
but you view is completely illogical.
baby exiting the birth canal, 1 millisecond away from being born = not human. therefore can be terminated, and discarded.
baby half way exits the birth-canal with head portruding = not human? half human? can be terminated and discarded.
baby has been born but hasnt taken its first breath and/or opened its eyes = ????
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I'm glad we agree that birth is miraculous. Having watched my daughter's birth, I believe those moments are when she changed from a person-in-the-making to a person.
Have you watched a child's birth?