IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
*ahem* Bolded: Are you saying that God has no free will? Are you saying that God is not willing to help victims as things occur? I'm not saying that God has to stop anyone from being raped or killed, I just find it weird that he doesn't. If I had a rat farm, or just a regular farm for that matter, and saw one animal attacking another animal I would do something to stop it, not just stand there and watch things escalate. Just saying. |
Wasn't dodging ban if I wanted to dodge a ban I would have done the following.
Done it earlier.
Hide or change my Ip.
Picked a better name.
I had one day before I was unban so I decided that if I got ban I would just be back the next day. Post 24th .... today is 25 not really dodging.
"Bolded: Are you saying that God has no free will? Are you saying that God is not willing to help victims as things occur? I'm not saying that God has to stop anyone from being raped or killed, I just find it weird that he doesn't. If I had a rat farm, or just a regular farm for that matter, and saw one animal attacking another animal I would do something to stop it, not just stand there and watch things escalate. Just saying."
How does God not have free will if he planned on being the judge and not the cop. He give a punishment harder then anything humanly possible. That's hell with last forever. He is doing something about it but it's not happening at current it's in the long-term. Every crime we do is not forgotten .... actually everything we do is not forgotten. Also in the long-run there is heaven in which every "evil" and pain is washed from the person and are in the ulimate sate purity. This are long-term solutions in which balance free-will as how someone lives here will lead to final judgement(review). This shows God's plan ulimate court system. This was done even during Old Testament when someone did a crime the "people" would punish the person on the earth and God would punish them with the final trail. It is never expected for God to deal with day to day operations because then he would just be controlling the world and no one would do anything because they forced to act a certain way or fear of death. No one gets away with anything people just think if someone isn't currently punished then no is doing anything but in reality that's not how things work. Like I said before God is the final judge that's his job and justice will come when it's judgement day.
"Are you saying that God is not willing to help victims as things occur? I'm not saying that God has to stop anyone from being raped or killed, I just find it weird that he doesn't."
If God wants people to be truely free he must let people do wrong just like he must let people do good. If you take on away your not free your controlled and your decisions are controlled. To add to what I said previously if God were to stop everyone from doing a crime then people would out of fear not come to God because of Jesus atonement or out of free-wii but out of fear. This is assuming that you want him to physical come down and stop it. But one point of mysteriously stoping the crime then I would just use that you are not free if can't make choices to do wrong. This is way to for there to be no exuse for your own punishment like in the normal world. I feel Hell in forever toment from your all your sins is more than enough for someone who raped or killed someone. In the long-term the woman who was raped has had her justice and if she went to heaven she would be bothered with earthly problems anymore just like if the person was killed. If killed then obviously if God thinks the person on judgement day will go to heaven then of course the person death isn't end and would have moved on to next step. The only difference from someone being killed and someone being raped is one last longer than the other. But there are people who get raped and recover from being raped (psychologically) with theropy or with God (praying or something in which you try to connect with God). On a side note have HAD a family member who has been raped and has recovered a lot from praying and asking God to help her from the pain which was emotional after the inncident. So, it doesn't end with raping or beating there is still chance to recover from horrible things like this.
"If I had a rat farm, or just a regular farm for that matter, and saw one animal attacking another animal I would do something to stop it, not just stand there and watch things escalate. Just saying."
Animals fighting each other has nothing to do with human crimes and really has no relation to God not acting on human crimes.
Please tell me if you saw a lion killing a zebra would you help? Bring up animals is horrible example for one. One some people don't care about animals that aren't dogs/cats and have a totally different moral system/laws. For example, if you saw someone testing on rats do you think that's a immoral thing? What you say on it is nothing but subjective opinion based on your own personal bias the relationship between animals and humans. Honestly I don't think the average person would do anything for the animals in "rat" farm or even for that matter judge you for not doing anything ( no laws or norm of thinking). That was simply horrible example which doesn't relate to how humans should relate to each other or even God for that matter.
Get this human examples or universial examples on how people usually think and not your personal feelings towards issues like animal discussions.
In conclusion.
God does something in the long-term which justfies both parties involved. The wrong party if God deems him to hell forever in toment based on everything the person did in his life then woman can rest knowing justice is coming. If the woman lived a life that God deem for her to go to heaven on judgement day then everything she has problems with will be lifed from her. Finally all of this keeping intact free-will has this people choose to live they way they did and got judge for it when it's all over(judgement day). Judgement day will be the final court date forever one and got has done as he promised since day one.
"Excuse me sir, I see you have a weapon. Why don't you put it down and let's settle this like gentlemen" ~ max
