I agree Jon but that doesn't mean they aren't comparable(if thats what you are saying). Microsoft chose Kinect and knew what they were getting into. They saw a way to get Wii like games on the 360. Bundled the crap out of it to build its base(something that's done with primary controllers as well) and treated it like a primary controller. It should be considered as much of a primary controller as the 360 controller since they both have games that don't work for them and neither one of them needs the other. The unbundled consoles without kinect are for consumers not interested in Wii like gaming so they wouldn't have bought a Wii either. Kinect was made to obviously compete with the Wii and the Wii remote. Just Dance was exclusive, now not so much. First chance Microsoft got at getting exclusive Wii games they took it. One of the controllers even mentions something along the lines of "instead of one handed controllers, how about no hands!" Ima try to find that video, it may have been when they annouced it e3.
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