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VicViper said:
theprof00 said:
VicViper said:

Too big posts :D

Well, let's say this

Post 1: DS was a disruptor and had first party games that changed the game in ways even the best Monster hunter game couldn't. Stop playing semantics here - you know pretty well I said third party games in this thread because Vita would benefit more from a, let's say, exclusive Final Fantasy, than a Killzone. So unless you can prove me Sly Cooper can be a 23 million seller like Nintendogs was, I'll stick naming the games Vita needs the most "third party", ok? Either way, it's pretty obvious it's "big games".

Post 2: Ok, Vita is okey dokey. That explains how it's selling astonishingly low. Lowest week in japan. Incredibly low in US. Rumors/evidence (still undecided) of being overtracked. Missing forecasts like a maniac - november 1st will be third time - and I don't think it'll be the charm! Well, I gave a personal theory, at least. And not just that, as that theory is not to explain past sales, but to try to predict what's next, and that is, continuation of the status quo.

More spin and strawmen.

1. So you said third party simply because third parties have bigger name games?!? Wow. I am very surprised you just said that. But it's just as interesting to note that in this very paragraph, you are now shifting along your OP. It's not third party games, guys. He just meant BIG games.

2. Okey dokey? Who said that? Not I. What I am saying is that your specific timeframe and metrics don't qualify as anything I'd call scientific. The truth is I've been waiting SPECIFICALLY for that time, because there are 4 or 5 games I want to get and need to decide between. This is why I'm saying your metric is wrong, because I know there are some potentially big games in there...it's just that none of them fit your prescribed metric. I don't think you CAN predict the future with a metric like that.

What you CAN say, and what I WILL agree with, is that Vita needs more games. It has SOME games coming out, but it's going to need a lot more, a truckload more, and it's going to need big games, and a pricecut.

The difference between my assessment and yours? Mine doesn't warrant a thread to get myself attention.


You just can't lose. Amazing.

Really, everybody knows it's "big games". BTW, the OP doesn't say what games it needs, BTW. It merely states that it doesn't have exclusive third party games, and that that's pretty important to have.

Vita does not need a truckload of games (Hey, I'll do a TheProf00 here! "See, guys he's saying here Vita HAS NO GAEMZ! GET HIM, BURN HIM" - [see, how dumb this is?]). It needs to keep the pace, but also needs hand picked games that really shake the market, having legs, prefererably. Selling like that won't get vita a truckload of games. But right business strategies can put strategically important games for it.

VITA has virtually ZERO Exclusive Third Party games announced for next year!

"Just boxed games announced."

A nice, coy, simple "exclusive, boxed, announced third party games". It's laughable to look at a metric like this! Maybe you think it makes sense, but it really doesn't! If anyone were to use such a small niche, I couldn't count how many people would disagree.

"I personally think this is what a real problem is"

You even emphasized 'this'!

@second paragraph
except that's not what I do. I do not demonize people by skewing what they are saying. You said this, are now changing your meaning after I confronted your initial point, and are just NOW saying that I caused the spin!

Business strategy is supporting the console by building the library further, convincing devs to further support the system, and continuing to increase the console's value. In time, as proven historically by nearly every console, the library sells consoles, which in turn makes devs want to take advantage, which creates more support, which further builds the library, etc etc etc.

All you have for evidence backing your "prediction" is the lack of this specific niche, much less the OBVIOUS that it will not sell as much without a pricecut.

Again, and I don't know how more clear cut it gets than this. vita is in a bad spot. It needs more games, more than is currently announced. It has nothing to do specifically with third party exclusive boxed retail games. You would also know that most games for next autumn wouldn't be announced at this point, and not a lot of games are released during the summer, so you're time-period really is only the first 6 months of the next year, skipping over the next 2 months before christmas.

There are a lot of problems, but this is not a real problem.