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Immortal said:
Jay520 said:
Immortal said:
I don't think it's morally wrong. And this not for any convincing argument, but because I just axiomatically don't value non-human lives. This isn't one of the arguments you addressed because I don't justify this by saying that they have inferior intelligence or are less conscious since that land us in even more moral entanglements where it may be alright to kill certain humans.
This means that killing animals, causing them pain, etc. is not a problem to me.
I'm not necessarily sure about this viewpoint, but I'd like to see an argument against this. The only convincing argument I've seen for vegetarianism is that it'll conserve resources, which isn't relevant here.


There probably wouldn't be an argument put against you. The fact that you have no problem with causing animals pain or even killing them would show that you're completely inhumane, in which case they probably wouldnt bother trying to convince you of anything.

I'm sorry, but I'm genuinely offended by that. The vast majority of the world accepts violence towards animals, at least passively. Yes, some of us make exceptions, such as dogs in many cultures, but no one thinks twice about killing an insect, for example. And calling most of humanity inhumane is, frankly, an oxymoron.



You're right that humanity specifies which animals are okay to harm and which aren't. However, you did not specify any certain animals. You just said harming/killing animals wasn't a problem with you. So if you were driving down the road and accidentally ran over your neighbor's dog then it wouldn't be a problem with you. Perhaps inhumane is the wrong word, but most people wouldn't consider you mentally healthy.