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JWeinCom said:
o_O.Q said:
JWeinCom said:

 

Not a peep about those games?  Well, maybe that's because this was a topic made about Playstation All Stars Battle Royale?  Do I go around posting about PASBR in topics that have nothing to do with the game?  No.  So why exactly would I want to discuss Pikmin 3 in a topic about PASBR?

Again, this is a straw man argument, and I'm not going to address it.  You've basically ascribed positions to me that I never claimed to hold.  This topic is about PASBR and whether or not it is a rip off/clone/ whatever.  My quote was in regards to whether or not PASBR being a rip off is a good or a bad thing, and you're trying to deflect that issue by turning things into an argument about Nintendo's originality.  As I said, if you want to talk about Nintendo's originality, make a separate topic, and I'll be happy to discuss the matter in that topic.  This one is about PASBR.  If you want to talk about PASBR, go for it.  If not, then feel free to make another topic to discuss what you do want to talk about.

ok then so i'm guessing therefore that this

"Games that break the mold, challenge conventions, and change things up advance their respective genres."

for you only becomes important when the gaming company at hand is sony, however, for others such as nintendo it becomes irrelevant

 are my conclusions correct or am i spouting bs?

 

" you're trying to deflect that issue by turning things into an argument about Nintendo's originality."

as stated above i was addressing this point you made

"Games that break the mold, challenge conventions, and change things up advance their respective genres."

from my interpretation you weren't just reffering to one game there but all or was i wrong?

1.  You're spouting BS because I never said anything about whether or not I supported that in regards to other games.  The issue we're talking about is specifically in regards to the issue of rip offs and clones.  You're talking about milking IPS which I've said nothing about.  It's a matter of context, and it's an issue that I didn't say anything about.  I never praised nor criticized Nintendo for releasing New Super Mario Bros U, just like I never criticized Sony for releasing God of War Ascension, Uncharted 3, or Little Big Planet Vita.  Again, if you want to talk about sequalization, go ahead and make another topic.

2.  It was a general statement about gaming, but it's being taken a bit out of context and taken to illogical extremes.  If making sequels was inherently evil, then game companies would have no incentive to develop new IPs.  Game companies invest big money in original IPS because they expect to be able to make popular and lasting franchises based on those IPs.  I'd go further into it, but like I said, not the time or place.

Like I said, if you want to discuss this further, feel free to do so in another topic instead of derailing this one.  But, if you still try to press this issue here, you're wasting you time and energy.  I'm not going to respond.

"Games that break the mold, challenge conventions, and change things up advance their respective genres."

my thing is that if this is what you take issue with in relation to this game then the same can be said of several other games

or do you believe this is only an issue in relation to this game?