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kain_kusanagi said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I don't think Ocarina of Time is the undisputed best game of all time. It is one of the best games of all time, but I don't think there is a game that the vast majority all agree is the best.

It's an interesting topic, but everyone has their favorites. Film as a medium was nearly perfected during the era of Citizen Kain. Video Games as a medium are still very much imperfect. Some games want to be movies, others don't have any story at all. What makes a video game good, is it gameplay or a great story with great actors? I personally believe gameplay trumps any attempt at narrative. When narrative is done well it does enhance the game, like Portal 1 and 2, but it's the gameplay that really makes the experience.

If I had to pick a game It would probably be one of the Super Mario Bros. games. They are fun, challenging and have good sound and music. They have just enough story to lay a foundation for the setting and the controls are just about the gold standard.

Which Mario game do you think it might be, kain?

See, that's the problem. Its so difficult to narrow it down. Do you go with the first one because it got so much right when nobody had even tried it before? Or the third one for expanding so much? Do you go with the forth for perfecting 2D Mario or NSM for refining it further? Do you go with the first to do 3D because it did what no other game had done or do you go with Galaxy 2 or 3D Land for refining 3D Mario gamplay?

Right now I'm enjoying Super Mario 3D Land, but the one I've played the most is probably Super Mario 3. Does nostolgia blind me? I don't think so because the old games are still fun to play today. Maybe that is what tells you if a game is truely great. Time shows what lasts and what doesn't.

I'm going to go with the Super Mario Bros. for the NES. It's the oldest and still fun and challenging today. Still be so much fun to play today as it was back in the day proves to me, at least, that it is a classic. Modern games, while very good, have yet to stand the test of time. In the future they may prove their worth, but right now we can only look back.

I believe it was in 1989 that Mario became more famous than Mickey - and it was one the first post-modern icon for kids (but several years after pac-man)

--> plumber who looks like stalin (satire?) - wears red - saves a candy-looking prude princess - eats mushroom to grow (Alice in wonderland?)and kicks turtles