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happydolphin said:

Nem, I'll just close by saying that is a very simplistic view of religion, and fails to see the expansive divide between the specifics of the various narratives in human religious threads.

With that, and with you unaware of those significant differences, it's impossible to have a meaningful debate.

Your anecdote of the person repeatedly begging for money perfectly illustrates your oblivion to the spectrum of differences in the various religious narratives. I'll just leave it at that.


I dont see why religion needs to be treated differently from any other human behaviour situation, nor do i personally see how knowing more into the tales or narrative as you like to put it, can have any relevant information that would alter the logic presented. I am sure the stories are very colorful, but nothing of what is written in it can be presented as evidance of god's existance, because it cant be proven. I would love for god to exist, but i just dont see how its possible.

This is not about how the story got to the god, but where the story came from in the first place. That is the proof and rationale to me. Because theres really no reason to believe it. Asking me to make a clean slate analysis, or in other words an exception for this one case really isnt acceptable either, because it wont get me any closer to the truth. On the contrary, it would create a bias. I do not indulge in lieing to myself. Would love for god to exist, if he could exist. Given he obviously doesnt, we really just have to accept the facts of the world we live in, as cruel as they may be.