SlayerRondo said:
Jay520 said:
spurgeonryan said:
You know that is not what I am saying. So should we just let animals live and take over the planet? How far should we over step our bounds as humans?
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Huh? I don't understand your question.
All I'm saying is if something is found in nature, that doesn't necessarily mean it's okay for Humans to do the same thing.
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Why is it ok for animals to do the natural thing and eat meat but not humans?
Because its not natural for us and wildlife animals have a chance we just have our animal "prisons" and kill the ones we want. They have no fair chance to survive at all.
SO its ok to eat animals if you give them a shot at getting away? That doesnt make much sense now does it.
Does it not have the same outcome for both of them with animals dying?
No see above. Plus wildlife animals kill other animals because they are hungry. We do it because of profit and because we are bored and want to eat. We kill more than we "need" to. Plus tons of meat are wasted because it is thrown away after reaching its expiration date.
We eat animals because were hungry and it taste good. And now its wrong to make money from providing people with meat is it? Do you think animals go Hmm i hope that the people who butcher me are not making a profit because that would be wrong. We do everything in our society for a profit cause thats how the economy works you moron.
Why not kill off all the animals who eat meat to save the vegetearing animals?
Because this would manipulate the natural food chain etc. And mess up the environment. BTW This argument makes not sense at all.
Would it not save all the animals from being eaten by others? Are we not also manipulating the food chain by not eating meat we desire to because of supposed ethical reasons?
Because that would lead to other animals overpopulating and messing up the environment!
Guess what! We are animals too and we are overpopulated and are #1 at messing up the environment. So lets kill 95% of all people okay? Sorry but NONSENSE again.
Yes the difference being people have emotions as well as hopes and dreams that make killing them slightly different to other living beings. Plus human overpopulation IS a problem that we have to deal with at some point or another. And how is it nonsense saying the animals that eat vegetables would become overpopulated? THEY WOULD if they suddenly lost their natural predators
How do you not know that but fore there use as food for people chickens, cows and pigs would have gone extict or will go extinct in the future? If we never removed them from their natural habitat and if we never destroyed that habitat there would be a big chance of wild chickens running around etc. BTW there is still wild chickens on this planet noone bothers to find them.
Yes in certain numbers. Release the chickens in captivity and watch them get masacred by their natual predators or overpopulate and need to be culled. And yes we do take up alot of space but both the chickens and thier predators suffer from this.
Is it not better to live a short life and be made food rather than to have been wiped out centuries age?
No why would it be better? Is it better to kill 1 year old babies than to maturbate? of course not.
No but a 1 year old lamb with not emotions and hopes might apreciate the short life.
While the living conditions of animals need to be improved there is no evidence that they experience emotions (that cant be explained by instincts) or desire a future which are essential when determining the worth of a creatures life to itself. There is prove they show emotions so please educate yourself before saying something like that. There was a myth that fish doesnt have emotions but even this is now proven false! And btw what do emotions have to do with anything? Why not its okay to kill everything that cant say PLEASE DONT! Its just some kind of excuse to keep killing animals.
They also cant apreciate life in any meaningfull way making their existence pointless. The evidence supporting animal emotions is garbage compiled by people who desperately want to prove animals can feel hapiness. Sadly they cant and people just have to accept this and move on with their lives. Without happiness life is not worth living but animals serve a purpose to provide food for people and other animals.
PS: As far as science goes in the next couple of decades we will be able to produce meat without any awarness or intelligence at all. In my opinion this is bad as then the animals wont even have a short life to live as they will no longer be bred at all. There are billions of pigs in the world and barely any Polar bears. Which one do we eat again? Even tho meat is unnecessary for humans to survive. Lab meat is a good idea becaue it wastes less ressources in producing the meat. (you dont waste ressources to create eyes teeth noone wants to eat.
And doestn require anyone to kill animals.
We "created" those billions of pigs thats why they are there.
Exactly we created thoose pigs because they served a purpose as food. Without us eating them they may well number in the hundereds or be extinct.
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