Skyrim Dawnguard PS3: Punished for choosing wrong console

[sergiodaly]

fillet said:

slowmo said:

fillet said:

sergiodaly said:

walsufnir said:

sergiodaly said:
many people are forgetting that PS3 can use the HDD to cache data the RAM claims are not possible to prove right unless bethesda "himself" say so... also, if the devs didn't think the PS3 was able to manage the game, or if they think they aren't talent enough to master the platform, they should not release it. the PS3 is the way it is long before the start of this game development, so is their fault to launch a broken piece of SW.

caching to hdd? swapping is magnitudes slower than ram... so where is the benefit? especially with slow 2.5"-hdds attached to a sata 1.5g-interface.

 

and why shouldn't they release it? it sold very well and shoveled a lot of money, even on ps3. games with issues have always been released.

you can try to make it as insignificant as you want... the fact is that the feat. is there and some developers use it, so some kind of benefit must come from it.

 

if you buy broken stuff, the seller will obviously make money from you... that does not make it right. i will not support any dev team or publisher that make this kind of business cause my money is not to waste.

Bull shit.

You don't know what you're talking about, caching to HDD is whe whole reason for the stuttering like that on the PC.

Caching to HDD when memory is exhausted is a last ditch attempt to stop a game CRASHING.

It results in server stuttering.

Seriously. Research before making comments that are based in fantasy land

Caching is also used to stream data from optical drives and does produce performance benefits. 

1. Caching to disk from media that has slow transfer rate or access times - Good.

Obviously this kind of system is used in a beneficial way for retrying a level more quickly, caching audio for example so it doesn't have to be streamed, caching executable code and so on.

2. Caching to disk because main system RAM is insufficient - Disasterous.

This is an emergency measure to stop a game or application crashing and results in complete bottle necking, games and applications hanging for seconds at a time on occassions, very noticeable and ugly.

 

Totally different scenarios, as I'm sure you're aware. Just clarifying I'm not a fool :)

you are twisting my words... some guys were using a bogus comparison for RAM between PS3 and Xbox with 4th grade maths (the term they use)
in that maths they were not taking a lot of things into account. like the fact that PS3 can cache info in HDD or that GDDR 3 on PS3 is a lot faster than xbox RAM. edit: my point is that not only the size of ram matters... didn't want to sound like HDD could replace RAM... but none understand that!

i use the term cache instead of virtual RAM and that was on purpose. cache is data the RAM need and is often loaded in the second best place besides RAM... and HDD is that place... Uncharted and killzone (like others) uses HDD to cache... didn't never say that makes it for the fact that PS3 has only 256mb of RAM... it makes it for a faster way to access data (like your point 1 mentioned in your post) against the DVD drive on Xbox and the bluray on the PS3... and in a big open game, the stream data must flow fast. besides the HDD game install,cache is often used.