2nd debate, who won? Obama or Romney?

[gergroy]

chocoloco said:

gergroy said:
here are some interesting poll results from former presidential debates. All from cnn

Debate 1
McCain 38 Obama 51
Bush 37 Kerry 53
Bush 41 Gore 48

Debate 2
McCain 30 Obama 54
Bush 45 Kerry 47
Bush 49 Gore 39

Debate 3
McCain 31 Obama 58
Bush 39 Kerry 52
Bush 44 Gore 46

So compared to the two debates so far this election we have

Debate 1
Romney 67 Obama 39

Debate 2
Romney 39 Obama 46

One interesting thing to note here is that Romney's victory in debate 1 is the biggest margin CNN has ever recorded in these types of polling. A big win like that can cost an election when it is this close, many consider the second Bush/Gore debate a game changer for Bush and that was only a 10 point margin.

Another thing to note here is that Kerry won every debate with Bush, two of which by pretty large margins, however he failed to win the election. In many ways this election is reminiscent of the Bush/Kerry campaign as Obama has pretty much taken the Bush playbook and ran with it. Also, there are some incredible similarities between Kerry and Romney.

The last thing to note from these numbers is that Romney is definitely a much better debater than McCain. How in the world did he lose his primary against him?

Romney supporters must be disappointed at the lack of a repeat performance. From tax plans to Romney being called out on his Libya falsehood, including by the live audience (a must-watch), President Obama appeared assertive and in charge. Measures of who won:

CBS undecided voters: Obama 37, Romney 30, Tie 33.
PPP Colorado voters : Obama 48, Romney 44, 58-36 among independents.
CNN debate viewers : Obama 46, Romney 39. R+8 sample.
Andrew Sullivan : calmer now that Obama took charge. Sort of a human InTrade.

For any debate it seems that each candidate is near-guaranteed that 20% will say he won (see Gallup numbers on debate #1). Keep that in mind

http://election.princeton.edu/2012/10/16/post-debate-2/

 

 

I like this ones info a little more. Especially the info on Colorado and independant voters which are about 1/3 of the population here.

thats cool, but I was kind of going for the historical connections and effects of debates with that post...