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WiiBox3 said:
Nem said:
WiiBox3 said:
Kantor said:
Jay520 said:
Nem said:


Oh jay... How do i know they arent real? Cause i know thunder is not the result of Zeus rage but of the interaction between particles in the atmosphere for example. Sorry im not really familiar with all the exact processes but its researched and proved. Wich is why we as humans can create a thunder ray aswell.

That actually leads to an interesting logical conclusion. We/humans are Zeus! If the roman gods were a creation of human imagination, why would the other one be real? Certainly something must prove it to not be the same as the Roman/Greek gods? Or you're saying we should believe in the same exact story with a different cover?

You say you are atheist, but you sure give the God story alot of credit/faith, despite obvious examples of the past.


Fair enough...you have proof that Zeus is not real.

Do you have similar proof (like proof that thunder isn't caused by a god) that can be applied to the Christian God? 

I never said we should believe in any gods.

I place no faith in no gods.

The theory of the genesis of life by the Christian god is entirely false, for one.

 

 

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. - The evolution of humans.

This statement in particular is very questionable to me.How can he be an omnipresent God that is everywhere and in everything and yet we're created at his image wich is humanoid form. Its puzzling that he has such a form and still be everywhere.

It's not the form. It's the spirit. This is saying that the only animal that lives on the earth that has a spirit is human. It's not our body, brain, heart, hands that is made in the image of God, it's our soul/spirit.


It clearly says image though. Image is something you can see isnt it?

Looking at the definition of image:

 1. a representation of the external form of a person or thing in art.


2. the general impression that a person, organization, or product presents to the public.


 3. a simile or metaphor.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/image

 

I guess the only choice is that its a metaphor. That makes it subject to interpretation. But if he wanted to say spirit. why did he say image?

 

Dont take this as an offense please, but just like the examples Roma gave, its all very smart writing with very loose interpretation options. It lets you read in it whats there and what isnt there. In "the image" can be interpreted as both in the physical image or in spirit. You just got to choose wich meaning you want or both.

 

Same thing occurs with Roma's quotes:
"So verily I call to witness the planets (stars) that recede. Go straight, or hide"

He reads that as black holes, but in fact, thats not whats written in there. First, planets and stars are very different things, and second black holes are not stars that recede (they pull even harder due to imense gravity), obviously dont go straight and certainly arent hiding as you can see them,(For example, if gas from a nearby star were sucked towards the black hole, the intense gravitation al energy would heat the gas to millions of degrees. The resulting X-ray emissions could point to the presence of the black hole).

Say i could interpret that just as easily has a moon going on its new moon phase when it "hides" or basically when it goes in the shadow of the earth.

Whats written is something that can be interpreted the way you want. But if you go at it logically, the notion that a star or planet goes "straight" makes no sense (though im sure we can easil make a derivation of it towards rays of light for example). That is already a big hint that the person who is writing these words doesnt really know what hes saying in detail. He just writes it in a vague way that allows you to draw any interpretation you want from it.