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HappySqurriel said:
gergroy said:
seems like a better debate would be between capitalism and socialism. The problem with communism is that the government owns everything and as a consequence essentially strips its citizens of individual freedoms.

your attacks on capitalism seem to be focused the class system that generally stems from such a system. Socialism would be a good comparison that is about redistribution without necessarily eliminating individual freedoms. Basically, the core comparison you want to make.

Socialism is also a state that is set up to fail though ...

Essentially, people will consistently vote for benefits for themselves and for someone else to pay for it which will ultimately lead to "killing the goose that laid the golden egg" (tax the rich), a default on the massive levels of debt that were built up, or a collapse in the currency due to monetization of this out of control spending.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with you.  I'm just looking at the OP and looking at his arguments I think he really wants to argue between socialism and capitalism.  The communism argument gets bogged down in personal freedoms and I think he really just wanted to argue about the income redistribution.  In which case, socialism would be a better fit for his arguments.