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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 16 October 2012
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Nem said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

I am an atheist... And I am an atheist because of the complete lack of evidence and indications supporting God's existence. But your logic still fails:

"Theres no proof he exists therefore he is not real. The absense of proof is the proof."

^There is your problem. Lack of proof =/= proof of non-existence. If there is a planet very far away from us that we cannot observe, does that prove that it doesn't exist? No, of course not. Whether we are aware of an object does not affect its existence... That would require godlike powers. Same goes for whether we can observe - or find any indiations of somethings existence: In any case it does not affect its existence.

Sure, we can't prove that there is a God, and there are no indications of him existing. But that does not affect his existence. Just because you can't see an object that doesn't mean it does not exist.


Again you cant understand the difference between what is real and what is imaginary.

Im gonna take this a step further as im getting bored with having to repeat myself. Say "alice in wonderland", do you think that is real or can be real? If yes, then you are considering anything can be real in your world. There is no order, anything can come to form at whatever time for whatever reason. There is no distinction between what is real and what imaginary because everything can be real.

But, we know alice in wonderland doesnt exist right? It was a story made up by a human. How does it fall on your scale now? How is it different from the story of this abstract God existing?


We can't prove that Alice in Wonderland doesn't exist in some sort of parallel universe. Neither can we disprove the existence of ghosts, trolls or fairies...but what they all have in common is complete lack of evidence. Same goes for God. And for that reason they are not part of scientific research.

If a person claims to believe in fairies you can't say to them, "There are many studies proving that fairies don't exist." because, well, they don't. For that reason you can't disprove people's beliefs in supernatural beings. You can feel free to question their mental health though, since as we know fairies only exist in *ahem* fairy tales. And fairy tales are never taight as fact by anyone.

...I would, however, refrain from questioning the mental health of religious people. We are all religious by nature, some more than others. And as we can see the religion of choice for most people is directly affected by the people's parents, societies, educational systems, and so on. It is in our genes to trust what our elders has too say, after all.

 

Not sure where I was going with that last part, but surely you get my drift: Not even fairies can't be disproven by science, but their lack of proof is what's stopping them from being part of scientific research.