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Nem on 16 October 2012
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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Nem said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Yup, was going to point it out until I scrolled down to your post.

Ironically, using that twisted logic, Christians would be able to prove that God exist: " I am not wrong and you have no way of proving im wrong when I say God exist, wich proves im right"

Erm... yes i can? Theres no proof he exists therefore he is not real. The absense of proof is the proof. Understand this is because im not the one making a claim, its the religious people who are claiming god exists.

What is god? I say it doesnt exists because it cant be verified and its a figure of imagination. You try to sit high and mighty and totally ignore what im saying. To just generalise both reality and imaginary in the same bag, leaves you with chaos, you have no way to distinguish what is real and what isnt, because you assume everything can be real.

God is something that doesnt have a form, no one know what it is. How can you possibly say that exists?

Realise once and for all, what i say makes sense because reality is not the same has the imaginary. Read the OP's last post. He says god is everything. Its totally delusional, god is everything and is nothing. As an entity that can exist in the physical world, god is not real.

The problem is not in my logic, the problem is you guys cant seem to make a distinction between what is reality and what is imaginary and throw it all in the same bag.

I am an atheist... And I am an atheist because of the complete lack of evidence and indications supporting God's existence. But your logic still fails:

"Theres no proof he exists therefore he is not real. The absense of proof is the proof."

^There is your problem. Lack of proof =/= proof of non-existence. If there is a planet very far away from us that we cannot observe, does that prove that it doesn't exist? No, of course not. Whether we are aware of an object does not affect its existence... That would require godlike powers. Same goes for whether we can observe - or find any indiations of somethings existence: In any case it does not affect its existence.

Sure, we can't prove that there is a God, and there are no indications of him existing. But that does not affect his existence. Just because you can't see an object that doesn't mean it does not exist.


Again you cant understand the difference between what is real and what is imaginary.

Im gonna take this a step further as im getting bored with having to repeat myself. Say "alice in wonderland", do you think that is real or can be real? If yes, then you are considering anything can be real in your world. There is no order, anything can come to form at whatever time for whatever reason. There is no distinction between what is real and what imaginary because everything can be real.

But, we know alice in wonderland doesnt exist right? It was a story made up by a human. How does it fall on your scale now? How is it different from the story of this abstract God existing?

 

To apply to your planet example just like Jay had a similar example you guys cant get over. Humans did not imagine planets before knowing them. They saw them and then they called them planets. They were not a product of our imagination. I dont say that there arent things we dont know about, i am saying that things were making up in our minds do not exist, except in our imagination.