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irstupid on 16 October 2012
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Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
It's worth noting that i'm against how the laws are being implemented, not against the idea of voter ID altogether. Similar to how one could say i'm opposed to Obamacare but not to universal health care. I see these laws as generally maliciously intended, because some Republicans have gone on record talking about how this is good for them from an electoral perspective.


Except that's not what you've said in this thread... which is why it's hard to take you seriously when you make these arguements.

You have constantly been argueing the law is racist in of and by itself.

The law is, not what the law is trying to implement. Especially the one in Pennsylvania which is imposing too-strict of standards

Except the standards aren't too strict.  They're the same standards you need to open a bank account... or cash a check.

It should be easier to comit voter fraud then check fraud?

Christ it's the standards set out by Jimmy Carter.

Well all know what a rightwing repubican racist hatemonger Jimmy Carter is.

 

I mean, how does say.. a phone bill stop an illegal alien from voting?  They get bills.

As of now, by federal law, to register to vote, all you have to do is say you are a US Citizen.

Nobody checks, nobody is allowed to check... heck that can't even check if the name you gave is real.  It's pretty easy to get a bill sent to your house with a fake name.

Therefore a form of identification that is only given to citizens is the only way to ensure fraud prevention.

Standards in Pennsylvania demand a photo ID with an expiration date, which disqualifies certain forms of state and federal ID

the new law is supposed to have "free" id's does it not?

Also how to people live their lives without an ID.  You need an ID to do all of these basic things.

1. Open bank account

2. Buy beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets

3. Get a job

4. Drive a car

5. Pay by check (not used as often anymore)

I'm sure there are others, but the most important thing that I make sure i have when leaving the house is my ID.  If i don't have it, it seems like I can't do anything. I can't get a beer at a resturant.  I'd get a ticket if pulld over.  Used to have to show it to get into a R rated movie when younger.  

If you don't have an ID, you are driving a car illegally. You are getting paid by your job illegally.  The person selling you alcohol, cigarettes or lottery tickets is breaking the law.  and so on.  

 

And please don't bring up the $25 charge to get a liscense or get a birth certificate in order to get your free ID, as I saw the complaint.  You should have your birth cirtificate saved anyway, but $25?  That is nothing.  No matter the weath status you have.  EVERYONE can afford that money.  The first person you find that says he can't I guarantee he has a case of beer on him or in his house.  People can't live without their alcohol, but throw a fit when asked to show ID in order to vote once very four years for the leader of this country.

Absolutely zero sympothy from me for them.  Hell I bet if they went to the side of the street and held up a sign saying "need $25 for ID in order to vote" they would get easily $25 in no time from poeple.