By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
Jay520 said:
Nem said:

Sigh... im trying to make it easier for you to understand cause you cant seem to separate what is real existance from what isnt. You just care to know about your example that is irrelevant to the subject. Wether we could verify at the time the existance of the galaxies with current instruments didnt make them false. It meant we couldnt prove they existed, therefore they didnt exist as something we know. But, they are physical object that exist and can be verified.

You will NEVER be able to verify that God exists because god doesnt have a concept or existance you can go and verify, therefore he simply cant exist. Only in the minds of people of course. I dont know how many definitions of God you know, but the one that said almighty beeing that created everything and watches everyone from above in the skies/heaven like a big perv, bla bla + hell and all that crap.

That made me realise that if God existed, the devil could exist aswell. What a conundrum it would be to prove he existed aswell. lolWe have to start giving out post-mortem cameras, they might do the trick. xD

Why do you keep saying that. I'm not talking about something existing as "something we know." I'm talking about something existing, period. Regardless of whether we know it or not.

Again, do you agree that things can exist even if we currently cannot prove their existence?

About verifying if god exists, your still focusing on certain specific definitions of god, therefore your claims only apply to those certain specific definitions. 


Ok, i say "something we know" cause you cant be sure wether something exists or not, but something in this case is something that can exist as reality. As in, opposed to imaginary things.

Things can exist even if we dont know about them. Us not knowing doesnt change that fact, but realise that in this case you already scrapped the possibility of them not existing from the table, so were parting from the principle that they exist for certain.

Again, i ask you share the other definitions of a god. I have mentioned before that an event can be classified as a god, but i dont see how an abstract entity can be. Really i guess you could call the big bang a God if you want. Big bang seems to work just fine though.