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Nem on 14 October 2012
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Jay520 said:
Nem said:

Listen, you have to have logic in the chaos. you cant just assume everything exists without knowing about it. Yes, things that we dont know about may exist, but we cant prove they exist until we actually prove it. Until then it isnt true.

Its the same as people saying theres talking humanoid fish races in the milky way. That is a false statement until it can be proven true. Everything in science that cant be proven true is false. The absence of truth is a lie.

If you just assume everything may exist, even what doesnt make any sense, you end up wit a very screwed up and unnacurate version of reality. You need to bring order to that.


You keep changing subjects. I didn't say anything about beliefs. I'm talking about whether something exists or whether it doesn't. If we cannot prove something, does that absolutely mean it doesn't exist? No.

There was a time when humans lacked the knowledge and technology to prove that other galaxies existed. Did that mean other galaxies didn't exist? No, it just meant we didn't have the evidence to prove them. Even though we could not prove other galaxies didn't exist, those galaxies still existed regardless of our proof. They didn't just start existing the moment we had proof. Same goes for everything else in the universe. They're going to exist (or not exist) regardless of what we can prove. Now, should we believe in those things? That's not what I'm talking about.

I dont see how i was taling about beliefs, but ok.

I answered this already. If we cant verify the existance of something, it doesnt exist as something we know. Galaxies can be verified. Things that are in existance can be verified. God is an abstract concept, its impossible to verify. Is it that difficult to understand that God is just a fairy tale created by humans? Tell me really, is a dream something that could exist in reality (by that i mean the world imagined and not the electromagnetic impulses of your brain)? How do you verify its existance? Where do you draw the line Jay?