| Jay520 said: People say that a lot but I don't buy it. Why should we owe God for something we didn't ask for? God created us out of His own will from His decision. We never asked or requested to be created. Some people probably wish they weren't created. Why should we owe Him for Life if we didn't ask for life? Moreover, why should we owe Him for life if He forced us into life? We humans had no say in whether we wanted to be created or not. God just took it upon Himself and created us. And no, you can't just 'leave' life, once you're here, you're stuck here. You can't commit suicide, because He'll send you to Hell. Basically, He forces people into existence and tells them they should be thankful for it. And if they aren't, then there in for tremendous sorrow. That's like having an annoying friend who keeps doing 'favors' for you even though you never asked for any. You keep telling him "No" "Stop" "Leave me alone" I don't want anything to do with you!" But no, he keeps coming, mowing your lawn, watering your grass, taking out your trash, cleaning your windows. You have no choice, no matter where you go, he follows you, and he just keeps "helping" you. You cannot stop his favors, you are forced to accept them. To make it worse, the friend then comes to you and demands that you pay him for his actions. Even though you never asked for his help, and even though you had no choice in the matter, he still thinks you somehow owes him. And if you don't pay what you 'owe,' he says he's going to punish you worse than you can imagine and longer than you could imagine. What type of twisted logic is that? |
Well, okay, let me phrase it this way. He created everything, including us, and so it is reasonable that God would want some recognition for his work. And in a sense, we do owe him everything, because we would have nothing and be nothing without him. You can say that some might wish they didn't exist, but they do, and what they have was created by God. That's not to say that God demands your gratitude for any of it, though he'd certainly appreciate it.
The best response I can offer to the rest is probably one you won't like. We are made to be in a relationship with God. That depression that people feel; that desire to be dead, or to wish that you never existed... that's because you don't have God in your life.
I know, I know. What kind of bullshit is that? Christians can be depressed too, right?
They certainly can be... but for whatever reason, Christians feel such peace believing in God, that they can get through it. They trust that God will help them to feel better.
The biggest problem with this argument is that it's impossible to prove. What if this person believed and asked for help but didn't get it? What if this person believed and was still depressed all the time? What if this? What if that?
The answer is no one but God actually knows. For what it's worth, I've seen Christianity do some incredible things to people... and the people who tend to be rotten (see: Crusades) are really not following the Bible at all.
