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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DélioPT said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Does he? In that case, he knew about every single person who would go to hell before they ever did. He also knew about every single person who would go through nothing but pain throughout their entire lives.

If he truly knew about those people... Would it not be cruel to decide to create them in the first place?

No.
Saying that God knows the outcome is only half the truth. Your forget the part where God knows what people did and how He tried to put them on the right path. Heaven or hell or paths that people choose and have to face the consequences of their actions. To those who went to hell, God gave them the greatest gift of them all, people just threw it away because they wanted to.

I understand that, but fact remains: God knew exactly who would go to hell and who would live through major pain throughout their lives before they existed. To me, creating them in the first place is cruel. I wouldn't adopt kittens if I knew I couldn't afford buying them food, or if I somehow (through divine powers) knew that they would not eat the food that I had to offer. In that case, it would be cruel to adopt them, as I see it.


I think the point of Abraham's blind fate in god is elsewhere. I believe it is meant illustrate that god's intentions should not be understood or interpreted as painful or absurd as they may seem.

In any case, yes, it is the sickest side of Religion, and the point of origin of fanaticism and mass manipulation ("believe and obey even if it seems crazy")