Who won the debate? Biden or Ryan?

[HappySqurriel]

Mr Khan said:

HappySqurriel said:

Mr Khan said:

Because the bond of familial love is something that shouldn't be tampered with if someone chooses to embrace it? Utilitarian as i may be, love and happiness aren't something that should be trifled with, and using economic incentives against love and/or happiness is nothing short of monstrous.

If you can't interfere with "familial love", should a man be able to claim his unborn child and force the woman to carry it to term?

The difference is between a child that does exist and one that does not yet exist.

In the case of a married couple, a man should be able to have more say in the decision (and in any ideal situation ,would simply have such say by virtue of being agreeably, happily married), but you can't love that which does not yet exist, but rather love the idea of her having a child, which is a very different scenario with different connotations.

Like i said, the one valid application of the double-standard.

But here in lies the problem, if you can't love what doesn't exist than you can't make the argument that welfare should support women who have children knowing they couldn't support them because of "familial love".