Who won the debate? Biden or Ryan?

[Mr Khan]

Kasz216 said:

chocoloco said:

Kasz216 said:

chocoloco said:

thismeintiel said:
 Sure, being aggressive and rude toward your opponent might get your base riled up, but it's not going to help with the Independents (which Obama is already losing) and the undecided voters.

Really, I think you are just stating what you want to believe. Independant since 18 and I will never vote Republican. Just vote for the best option that can win.

I don't think that actually makes you an independent... so much as a Democrat who doesn't like to be labeled a democrat.

Lol, no. I think I just do not want to waste my vote on something that would help Republicans. Voting for a third party is a wasted vote that would otherwise help more of the values I believe in that the democrats share. I do not read your posts much, but I am curious if you actually vote left ever yourself?

Complete voting History?

2000 Primary - John Mccain

2000 Election - Al Gore

2004 - John Kerry

2008 - Barak Obama.

And i voted for Dennis Kusinich every time he ran for the house.

So yeah.  I've voted left before.   My biggest issues with Obama actually are drone strikes, the NDAA and him thinking it's totally ok to murder US citizens so long as they aren't in the US.

This election i'm either voting Gary Johnson or Jill Stein, either will do.

In Nevada now...

Voting for Dean Heller over Shelley Berkly, because she's so corrupt even leftwing watchdog groups have negative things to say about her corrpution... and will vote against Harry Reid, if there is ever a NON insane candidate running against him, since he's a serial liar who got rich off of getting government projects that coincidentally were right by, and raised the value of land that he owned.

 

Though yeah... the point is.   You aren't an independent on the basis of what people mean when talking about independents... and for all intents and purposes are a Democrat.

When people talking about "winning over independents" they mean people who can see the pros and cons of both parties.

lol @ the Sharron Engel reference