Who won the debate? Biden or Ryan?

[theprof00]

Kasz216 said:

theprof00 said:
Everyone just says "both sucked". What is a good debate then?
In two elections on vgc, I have not seen one debate called "good"

One of the Bush/Kerry debates was good on both sides... i forget which though.

I thought the "Lock box" debate was a good one for Gore/Bush even though Gore later got hammered about it.

It's funny how quickly republicans and democrats switched on that issue.  

 

But what's the qualification of it being good?

Talks about important issues?
THe candidate(s) do(es) really well?
The backdrop?