Who won the debate? Biden or Ryan?

[Kasz216]

Max King of the Wild said:

Kasz216 said:

Max King of the Wild said:
Biden denied knowing there was a request for more security? Pathetic... I'm watching fact checker right now

Biden denying that he voted for the wars... but he did... how the fuck do you forget about that?

I don't believe he ever denied voting for the wars.  He just mentioned Ryan did... knowing that Ryan wouldn't mention the fact that Biden did as well... because it only helps Obama.

and that coincidentally Biden was one of the main driving democrats who rustled up enough support to invade Iraq.

I'm pretty sure the fact checker said he voted against the budget and wars but he in fact voted for the budget until the last one that Bush signed in and he did vote for both the wars.

Maybe i missed it... but i also saw a fact checker say Paul Ryan was wrong when he called the 6,500 number misleading... because the group who said it, in fact said it was 6,500.

Ignoring the fact that Paul Ryan wasn't disputing the 6,500 number... but that the 6,500 they reached was flawed in it's methodology.

 

Sort of like if I mentioned that Gregory said you were a liar about who your voting for.   Then you said what gregory said was misleading... and then they decided in fact I was right because gregory said you were a liar.

 

Fact Checkers are all kinds of incompetent lately.  At worst, they're partisian hacks now... at best, they ignore all relvent context in favor for a quick fact check that can be accomplished by google, rather then a deep analysis of the differing reports, why the reports differ, and in which cases you would expect said reports to be more accurate.